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noticeable. >> so if there was hair, there could be a cushion or you may not notice it? >> possibly both. it may be getting mixed up with the hair. i guess it would depend on the thickness of your hair to determine the amount of cushion that would be. >> i have no further questions at this time. >> i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room," we're continuing our live coverage of the george zimmerman second degree murder trial. we just heard from lindsay folgate, a physician assistant, who treated george zimmerman the day after he shot and killed trayvon martin. now there's going to be some more questioning. let's listening to see what's going on.
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>> that's the criminal defense attorney, mark o'meara standing there. they're cueing up some pictures or video on the laptop over there. martin savidge has been watching what's been going on. it's been a pretty dramatic day. i want to get to you in a moment. let's listen to what they're talking about. >> actually, it will be a few minutes before i need this. good afternoon, ma'am. >> hi. >> i'm going to focus, again, he was a patient of yours for a while before the event where he came to you on february 27th, correct? >> correct. >> but just to start with the last question first, he did not have any back pain caused by back injury before this event, correct? >> no. >> the back injury was actually
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internal, concern that showed itself as a back pain? >> correct. we believe it was likely related to the constipation. >> so when he came to you of the 27th, that was the first time he had ever complained of back pain? >> yes, this was unrelated. >> okay. let's focus, then, on that night. >> okay. >> the day -- make sure i do this right so give me a moment. >> this -- oh, yes, thank you very much, your honor. is this close to how he presented to you that day? >> from what i recall, similar. >> yes? >> yes. >> this was just to orient you, this was taken the night before. >> okay. >> maybe 12 hours or so before
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you saw him. >> okay. >> and that was pretty similar to the way he presented to you? >> fairly similar. it a different picture when you're seeing it on a picture rather than up close. >> certainly. and i apologize for that. >> i'm sorry, i'm going to bounce back and forth. you probably have not seen this picture before, you have? >> i have not. >> if this person presented himself, would you -- you know that to be george zimmerman? >> yes. >> if this person had presented himself to you looking like this, what would you have done for him? >> if he had come to our office looking like that, we would have cleaned the wounds so we could better evaluate what the type of injuries are and go about the same process that we went through and then order the testing based off of that. >> if you look at this photograph as compared to the one we just identified, i would like to focus your attention to the nose area. >> okay.
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>> would you -- >> objection to relevance and also she didn't see him like that so i object as to speculation at this point. >> let me hear the rest of the question. >> would you agree that the swelling that you saw in that picture has gone down from the way it is here? >> it looks like it's decreased slightly. >> is that normal? let's say that there's a four-hour difference, five-hour difference between this picture and that picture. is that a normal sort of receding of swelling? >> it depends on what he's using to help keep the swelling down. so maybe if he was using anti anti-inflammatories or icing the areas, then yes. >> so would you expect an injury of this significance to look like this five hours later, is that normal? >> yes, it could. >> once it's cleaned up? >> correct.
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>> but would you agree that in this picture that the nose is in fact more swollen than it is in that picture? >> it does appear to be, yes. >> why is that? what happens to the body that it heals itself like that? >> the body naturally tries to take care of itself if it can. and the body responds to trauma in a certain way. that is why the body produces swelling and as the body is recovering, that is how the body resolves. it also depends on things that you're using like anti-inflammatories or ice to the area. >> so as this may look as though it's a bone protrusion to the right side of the nose, it not actually a bone protruding out there, is it? >> it's unlikely in the sense that it resolves and looks like that picture later. >> yet the body swells up at point the injury, does it not? >> it does, it can. >> and it does that in response to the trauma of the hit,
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correct? >> it can, yes. >> and it does that by swelling and the swelling, if you would just sort of tell us why the body swells or how the body swells up in the area of trauma. >> the body itself is reacting to the impact of something that's happened. so certain blood can rush to the area or more fluid underneath the skin can rush to that area and that's what produces the effect of the swelling. >> including lymph fluid, doesn't that wander over and white blood cells? >> they can. that's the purpose of the lymph system, to help with infection or foreign bodies, things like that. >> particularly when we know there's bleeding happen, correct? >> mm-hmm. >> and especially where there are blood vessels. >> yes.
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>> and likely there is bleeding in the nairs when it comes down the face. >> okay. where would the blood going to go because of gravity? >> it's going to go down. >> and what happens if you're laying back? >> likely you're going to swallow it back. >> and it can go down in the sinuses as well? >> it can. >> and you can be swallowing your own blood, correct? >> you can. that will give you the taste in the mouth, correct. >> the swelling that we've just spoken about is the body's initial reaction to trauma, correct? >> it is. >> and it only can last just a few hours, correct? >> it depends on the level of the trauma and the patient, yes. >> does that diminish the fact that the body was in fact
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traumized as we see in this picture? >> meaning does it make it less plausible that the body was attacked? >> no. >> it's a natural process for the body to begin its healing process immediately, correct? >> yes. >> and this body was cleaned up after the blood was all removed. well, you can barely still see the cut just to the top of the bridge of the nose there, correct? >> correct. >> would you acknowledge that there was in fact a larger laceration on the nose here? >> there appears to be but there also appears to be blood there. >> again once you clean it up, it looks better? >> correct. >> have you seen this picture before? >> i have not. >> would the scalp bleed in a fashion like this from those two lacerations? >> it can.
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the scalp, again, is very vascular meaning there are plenty of blood vessels on the surface that can bleed like that. >> and bleed that way? >> again, gravity would start to pull that down. >> let's spend a moment, if you would. i want to show you some other pictures of mr. zimmerman that night. now, can you see that photograph? >> i can. >> okay. do you note additional areas of swelling on this picture that you may not have noticed on your physical evaluation? i'm sorry, your honor. that is state's exhibit 57. let me point to you, do you see anything in this area of swelling?
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>> there is swelling there that i can see, yes. >> would that also possibly have resolved itself in the few hours -- in the 12 hours between this picture and when you saw him? >> it could have, yes. >> do you see an area up here that seems to be misshapen? >> in the photograph, yes, i see that. >> would that be an area of swelling? >> we call those scalp hematomas where blood can pool under the skin. >> how does a scalp hematoma occur? >> it can occur through trauma, so some sort of trauma to the head that resulted in the collection of blood there or fluid there. >> in effect in sort of layman's terms, if i was to smash my head against something, let say i hit this part, the trauma would cause blood or maybe lymph system fluid to flood that area? >> yes. >> similar to the nose, it would go there, do its job and then sort of recede? >> correct. >> and that's what causes
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swelling as we know it? >> correct. >> and that's what caused it here? maybe. >> it could, yes. >> and that's what caused it up here? >> it could, yes. >> you see these, right? >> yes. >> and those were the lacerations that you identified? >> those were the two, yes. >> what is the potential outcome from head trauma like that? >> it again depends upon the physical exam of the patient and you base a lot of that off the physical exam of the patient but any sort of trauma can result in an internal injury, meaning bleeding into the brain, skull fractures. >> and is that a duringal hematoma? >> it depends where the blood is. >> you can have an epidural
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hematoma, sub dural hematoma bleeding beneath the scalp that will resolve itself, correct if. >> an epiduring or subdural hematoma would be below the skull. that's the difference between a hematoma above the skull. >> so subdural and epidural, -- i'm sorry, if i just went up to this head and cut it with a razor blade or a scalpel, that would not, you would magical a subdural or epiduring hematoma? >> no. >> but if i took that same skull
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and smashed it on concrete, but getting that injury by having your head hit against cement, could that cause a subdural epidural hematoma? >> that could depending on how hard the impact was. >> and that would, in fact, be an injury below the skull in the area where the brain is. >> correct. >> which is one of the reasons why you do what you do in your evaluation, to make sure that he can still focus his eyes and still speak because your concern at that point with any head trauma that there may be some brain injury. >> correct. >> and your charge then at that point is to rule out that possibility, though you would agree that possibility exists whenever you have an injury like this. >> it can, yes. >> closeup of the same thing. you see the swelling again up on this area and right in here.
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>> correct. >> tell me, can you see that injury up there or that occurrence up there? >> i can see what maybe appears to be an abrasion of the scalp. >> is that -- what would you call that? that punctate a bruising? >> it could be or it could be an abruce, which is basically just a layer of the skin coming off. >> what are punctate injuries? >> it would be injuries to the blood vessels themselves causing punctate bleeding or small cap
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-- capillary bursts like that. >> would that bring that bruising? >> if it was hit on concrete, the rough surface could have caused that, too. >> consistent with being hit on concrete? >> it can be consistent with that if it was struck on that. i'm sure that could happen on other surfaces as well. >> if mr. zimmerman were to come to you and say his head were hit on concrete, would it be consistent? >> objection. >> i think she's already testified. >> okay. i'll move on, your honor. >> did you notice any injury right there? >> i don't believe that injury. >> can you tell us what that
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looks like to you? >> it looks like it may be a scratch of the skin or an abrasion of the skin as well. >> and now let's look up here at that injury there. what is that -- can you identify what that is? >> it looks like there may be some mild swelling there. >> another bruise? >> it's hard to tell if there is an actual bruise or discoloration of the skin, but it does appear there's some swelling. >> i'm sorry, would we just characterize that in layman's term that's a bump on the head? >> correct. >> how would you get something like that? >> again, it could come from hitting your head on any sort of surface potentially or being struck by something. >> can you also see any type of punctate injury right and here?
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>> i can see that. >> as far up as here? >> correct. >> and as down low as here. >> correct. >> and what you testified before, more of the same? >> it appears to be. >> i'm sorry, that's exhibit no. 66 that the witness is testifying concerning. and do you see this area right there of swelling? from this ridge here down to this ridge. can you see that? >> it hard to tell on this picture from a side view. >> can you see this injury here? can you identify what that is? >> objection as to leading. in this aspect in terms of mr. o'meara saying there's injuries there without the witness saying there is. >> sustained as to the word injury. rephrase your question. >> i will. >> can you see anything in this area that i'm circling?
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>> there appears to be an abrasion there. >> again, an abrasion consistent with that head being hit on concrete? >> it can be consistent with that, yes. >> and that was 68, your honor, if i didn't identify it. now looking at state's exhibit 69. let me ask you to pay attention to this area here. is that the acontribution you were identifying earlier? >> it appears to be the same. >> just going back, can you see that as an area of swelling as well? >> it does appear to be swelling. unfortunately some of that you have to take into account on a physical exam of how that area feels during the time so it difficult to get in a picture. you have certain head shapes as well. >> and, again, this may well have resolved itself in the 12 hours from the time when the picture was taken and you saw him? >> it could potentially have,
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yes. >> and do you see similar -- -- what do you see up in this area, what would be above his left eye? >> partly shaded but possibly another abrasion as well. >> and can we see the lacerations around this side? >> i can see those, yes. >> is that the area that we talked about before with the misshapened skull at the top? >> it appears to be. >> now let's look at this side to orient to state's exhibit 70 and the right side of his skull, correct? >> okay. >> what is here? again, it could be swelling with abrasions that we noted before. >> and how about here, additional -- >> additional abrasions?
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>> would that abrasion come from its own strike from something? >> that would be difficult to determine. >> how about the one up here? >> again, it would be difficult to determine. >> how about here? >> same thing. >> we get a better view from the misshapen area on the back of his skull from this perspective. >> there appears to be possible swelling there or the mis shash. >> i think we've testified and this is state's exhibit 71, you've testified to these areas and also there'ses up here, correct? >> correct. >> if i might, exhibit 74. this is a close-up of the area
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of the lacerations. can you better describe for me what you see here as far as additional areas of swelling around the lacerations. >> there appears to be swelling around the lacerations, which would be consistent with a trauma that elicited the laceration itself. >> meaning that whatever caused the laceration was also. >> and that could cause the swelling, correct. >> consistent, all of it, with being hit on concrete, is it not? >> it could be consistent, yes. >> if that complaint was that that head was hit on concrete, would you consider that consistent with the injuries that you see? >> i would. >> thank you very much, your honor. for the lights, thank you. >> now, let's spend just a
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minute on the report itself. i'm just going to hit some high points on it, if i might. his vital signs, blood pressure, 130/80? >> correct. >> a concern for a 28-year-old? >> slightly high on the systolic side but from what i remember in the past, he's never had a problem with my blood pressure before. >> but not a good high blood pressure, right? you like it lower? >> i deally we like to see it 120/80 or less but i wouldn't be concerned. >> pulse 1 9. >> that is high. ideally around 70 to 80. >> evidencing what to you? >> that strecan can can carelat
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and trauma. >> how about the bmi? >> the bmi is 34.8. >> meaning he is clinically obese. >> again, not healthy? >> ideally that's not the healthy range. >> not atlettic? >> it doesn't necessarily mean somebody's not athletic with the bmi of 31. it just means it's not at the ideal range of the standards of health for bmi would be. >> and you've gone through the actual injuries that you identify. we talked for a moment about the s.i. injury. >> correct. >> is that injury consistent with falling on your back or i guess in the buttocks area did
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you say? >> it can be, yes. >> when you get that kind of s.i. pain? >>. >> sacroiliac, correct. >> and that's in a straight linlin line? >> it's not necessarily a straight line. you have one on each side of the buttock. >> he had reported to you that he was hit in the nose, correct? >> by his attacker. >> correct. >> was that consistent with the picture i showed you here of his nose, national injuries. is that consistent with getting punched in the nose. >> and is the s.i. injury he
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talked to you about consistent with being thrown on your back? >> it would be consistent. >> the only way to identify that a nose is broken would be with an x ray, right? >> that would be the definitive way to determine a nose fracture. >> it would be definitive if you saw an actual septal deviation? >> possibly. >> if the whole nose was pointed off in one direction or the other, pretty obvious that is a break, correct? >> correct. >> but short of that, would you need to have an x-ray in order to get that accomplished? >> correct. >> and that was the reason why you had referred him to an e.n.t.? >> correct.
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>> to document what you could not do in the office. >> correct. >> did he tell you he wasn't going to go to the e.n.t. because of the high dedubtable on his insurance policy? >> i don't think there being talk about cost or deductible. >> do you recall him talking to you about what that would cost? >> i don't remember that. it also wouldn't change my opinion of where to send him or not to send him. and you were firm that he needed to see an e.n.t. for the nose injury. >> correct. >> even though it was reduced to better than the cleaned up picture we looked at, right? >> correct. >> and that went from this picture to that picture in four hours and had you another 12 hours of the swelling to go down. >> correct. >> but even still you wanted an
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e.n.t. consult? >> yes because there can be resill you'll factors of fracture if it not taken care of. >> and you also suggested he get a psychological consult? >> correct. >> why is that? >> he was already seeing a psychologist. in my opinion, for someone to go through the ordeal of what he went through the night before that he was telling me, i would recommend anyone go see a psychologist. >> did he come across that he wanted to make secertain you wod document his injuries of the attack? >> from your perspective, he wasn't trying to use you as a shill to come up with some reason or medical reason for his injuries? >> it didn't appear that way. >> were all the complaints
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documented by your evaluation? >> they were. >> and those injuries actually did exist, correct? >> they did. >> and in addition, the psychological concern you had in your professional opinion, that existed as well sp. >> it did and it would have existed with anybody who would have came in or what he was concerned about what had taken place that night. >> particularly was doubd or supported by the injuries that he showed or exhibited to you? >> supported by that. >> what we didn't note in the cleaned up picture, you know the one i'm talking about when i say that? >> yes. >> we didn't note any black eyes on that picture, did you? >> i didn't notice them from the picture, no. >> so tell me, as the body begins to heal itself, we know that it rushes to the area of trauma, as you said. >> correct. >> and then it sort of recedes.
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>> correct. >> well, what's the timeline on those eyes to go black? >> sometimes the black eyes can become more apparent at a later date. that's not necessarily an initial event that happens. most of the time swelling comes to the area and then the swelling may recede and something like the black eyes can occur after that. >> the black eyes are residual blood that has escaped the cap larrys and just sort of pools in the off pockets of under the eyes? >> that's correct. >> dough you don't expect to see blood or a black eye an hour or ten minutes after a punch in the nose, do you? >> not necessarily that quickly. >> was it consistent that he had been punched in the house that when you saw him 11 a.m. in the morning that his eye could be blackened? >> they could be, yeah. it was consistent with what i
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saw in my physical exam. >> and they were in fact two black eyes, correct? >> they were. >> i mentioned a moment ago was he trying to sort of somehow make up or document significant injuries and i think you said he wasn't. >> not from the impression that i had. >> on the other side, was he trying to even minimize his injuries and get it behind him? did you get any of that feel with him telling you he wasn't going to an em it. and he just -- e.n.t.
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>> and you were asked about the bandage. obviously you would have taken that off. did that seem to be an appropriate bandaging to do for that injury? >> that was fine given that the skin edges were well approximated and the scalp lacerations were not that deep. if you're referring something to like a butterfly bandage or butterfly stitch was necessary at the time. >> you didn't look at that damage like we were kid, and a cut with an inch or a four inch bandage, you didn't wonder why somebody was -- did it seem appropriate for it to be bandaged? >> it was important to keep the injury kfrd. >> would it make sense as a nursing student to cover an open wound? >> objection. speculation. >> i'll rephrase it.
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>> if you saw those wounds on back of the head, would you clean them off and put bandages over them? >> i would likely have them cleaned and if the patient desired, would i put a bandage over them. it doesn't necessarily have to be bandaged to keep certain debris out of the area. >> right. and weep talked a bit about what happens when up fall down and he used himself as a model and i might use myself as a model that i may not get as injured because i have hair than someone who doesn't have hair. >> i don't know if that would netly be. >> it would be more apparent on somebody who back then didn't
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have hair to cover the injuries, but the injuries are what they are, correct? >> correct. >> and certainly whoever may have inflicted those injuries knew how much hair was on the body that they were inflicting the injuries on, correct? >> objection. special lags. >> sustained. >> did you ask mr. zimmerman if he had cut his hair in the past 14 hours? >> i had not asked that question. >> if i may have a moment, your honor. >> all right. while the defense attorneys are consulting amongst themselves, let's bring in sunny hostin. it looks like a pretty powerful cross-examination for mark o'meara making the case that trayvon martin was beating up. hold on for a moment, think about that. let listen in. >> thank you. any redirect?
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>> you mentioned something that i was curious about in talking about the shape of the head. >> yes. >> i guess we all think the head is perfectly shaped, our skull. is that always true? >> it's not necessarily always true. >> tell me a little bit about that if you would. >> everybody's head shape is completely different. obviously most people don't notice because they have hair on their head so it depends on what that may look like, but everybody can have certain abnormalities of the skull. >> so in other words, people may have a bump there just preexisting and it may not be caused by trauma? >> it could be, correct. >> so had you an opportunity. you were shown a lot of photographs. can you pull that up? i'm sorry. >> it's too late. >> oh, it is? just go back? >> you're not saying that those were all.
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>> it would be hard to determine that based on a photo. most of that would be based on a physical exam as well. >> i think i'm through with the photographs, your honor. and my point is you actually saw him as a live person. you actually looked at his head. >> correct. >> you looked at his head and he had less hair than mr. guy here. >> correct. >> and you looked at his head to examine him? >> correct. >> and that was all you saw in the examination were two lacerations? >> thafs all i noted. >> all the other stuff we've been talking about in the photos, you wrant wear of that. >> at the time i'm not sure if there was any line about that in my note.
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>>. >> let's say those were all traumas caused -- hematoma. >> so what took that and, maybe an aspirin or two or tylenol or two or did it happen naturally. >> again, it depends. >> so you're not seeing that as severe trauma in any way? >> i don't know if i would say it's not severe or not. he does have two scalp lacerations and i'm basing that off what his complaints are in he comes in. >> his history in other words. >> exactly. >> but you only know tated two. >> but you noticed -- those were the things i was looking for the most because those were the thicks that we discussed ernlly. >> and when you did the whole
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exam in terms of nausea -- i'm sorry, about dizziness, being able to to with opinion. >> i'm ruling it out based on what he's telling me and then i then base it on my physical exam and his neurological exam to make sure all of that is appropriate. >> so you ruled out of that out sp. >> he seemed neurologically intact. >> so he didn't have a brain injury? >>. >> it did not appear to be anything requiring imaging because you also did not notice anybody. >> he gave you a history in terms of he wasn't complaining of trauma to his head, correct. >> >> he did complain of tram a to his head meaning he had the lacerations. >> and again, the and so he did
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complain of ed so based on his chis exam and because of that i didn't order the addition an. >> because if you had noted something, would you have ordered additional tests? >> exactly. and i noted what the additional science to be looked for. >> and you never. >> so did any of the injuries asquare anything other than meanor clearing. then again, we don't know the definitive diagnosis of the national. >> and at the time from what i. >> and mr. o'meara possibly said
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this he didn't have insurance. you don't recall him ever saying that you do you? >> and i think you know tated already, but you did no as to teb 27th -- he didn't come into your it was and, i can't think, i can't walk, i can't function. he didn't come in complaining about that, would he? >> the major concern was. >> you mentioned you suggested he see a psychologist but he was already seeing a psychologist;
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is that correct? >> he was already established with a psychologist, yes. >> i'm sorry, your honor. may i have a moment. now, going back to august 19th, 2011, i removed that document. that was the first time would you have had contact with him? >> correct. >> mr. zimmerman talked about his exercise ruinity that he was taki taking. >> your honor, i'll be glad to approach the bench regarding something that i want to show her. >> well, that wasn't brought up in cross-examination so it's outside the scope. >> yes, your honor. may we approach the bench on another matter? >> yes, you may.
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>> all right. so while they're talking with the judge at the bench, let's bring back sunny hostin for a moment. during the cross-examination, the defense attorney mark owe merah seemed to be making some ton the argument is, well, maybe he wasn't injured all that severely. give us your analysis of what we've just heard over an hour or so. >> well, she's an important witness to the prosecution, that's why they called her. not because she -- she said that george zimmerman admitted to her taking three times a week. i believe he described it at working out intensely at an mma
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gym. we know three of the witnesses, neighbor witnesses, said that they believe that trayvon martin was underneath george zimmerman. the only witness that describes mma-style punches says that george zimmerman was on the bottom. so the prosecution of course needs to get into this because they want to show that that witness, john good, who seemed to be very consistent was wrong. that it actually george zimmerman with his mma style training on top of trayvon martin and that's why they're getting into this. that's why mark o'here ra is trying to krael cross-examined her. >> lindsay treated him the day after the shooting. >> and finally, ma'am, what kind
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of symptoms would you expect to a gunshot wound of the heart. >> objection, your honor. it's outside his direct and outside my cross. >> sustained. >> the last page that you referenced to her. i have mine. >> actually, what mr. zimmerman said to you not that who had done mma three times a week, correct? >> that is what is on the she'd but then i go into more detail in the office. >> when we are talking about aerobic exercise, we're talking about mixed martial arts? >> when you talked to him about
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aerobic exercise, he mentioned mixed martial arts. >> so stopping the attack is what allowed him to survive it, would you agree? >> it could have, yes. >> okay, thank you. nothing further. >> would you agree that's pure speculation on your part? >> i wasn't there at the time of the event so i don't know the exact trauma that took place. >> okay. can miss folgt. >> i want continue to variety you again that you're not to discussion the case amongs your yours. >> too-to-do people, plays or
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thin things -- you are not to discuss the case amongst yourselves, to people, place and things. you are not to discuss the case amongst yourself. >> there you hear the judge make the admonishment to the jury that they don't watch tv, they stay clear of any of the reporting that's been going on. there's been a lot of testimony today, some testimony relatively positive for the defense, some testimony relatively positive for the prosecution. we're going to have full analysis. let's take a quick break. all of our players are with us right after this.
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analysis of what we just heard, wrapping up the week of the george zimmerman second degree murder trial. martin savidge is joining us. you've been covering it from the beginning. give us your quick assessment of what we're heard, it was good for bad for george zimmerman, what we heard from lindsay folgate, the physician assistant. >> it was missed. the opinion she was he thought he was going to die at the hands of trayvon mart rngs that's why he had to shoot and i'm not sure that for the defense, she really painted that picture of a man who was facing that. that said, however, there's the other issue the she brought up, the mma. that he was apparently going to a gym where there was mixed martial arts. that played heavier in earlier testimony. the person who is said to be on top delivering the beating looked like they were using an
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mma style. so, a very crucial day. key testimony without a doubt, wolf. >> what did you think, mark? criminal defense attorney, legal analyst. what did you think of this final day of the week's testimony? >> i think it was an exhausting day for everybody involved. i think there was a lot of testimony and people were swaying back and forth. they hear something good for the prosecution. something good for the defense. i think over all that it was a day that really benefitted the defense. why? because this is the prosecution's case. they're putting on their best case and the prosecution is presumed to having better days. when the defense in any trial, you chip away at a prosecution's case and show there's really holes and weaknesses in it, this is what they're using to convince the jury. >> that's a fair point. diane diamond is joining us as
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well. what's your assessment? >> i completely agree. i think that this is the part of the trial where the prosecution is supposed to shine and the defense is supposed to sort of hang their head and wait for their turn. you know, i think this last witness was very important. she talked about the injuries to this man. the prosecution did get in that they weren't life threatening, but let me ask you this, wolf. how badly do you have to be hurt before you are allowed under law to start to defense yourself? no, he didn't have dizziness, he didn't lose consciousness, didn't have blindness, but he did have what appeared to have broken nose, damage to the back of the head, sciatica in his lower back. he was obviously hurt in some way during this tussle, so it all comes down to what those six jurors think. they're parents.
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the majority of them if not all of them. two of them have guns in their own home. so, it will come down to what did the jurors think was reasonable for him to do if he thought himself, if he thought he needed to have a self-defense. >> that's a good point and sunny hostin, you've been watching it from the very beginning as well and i guess the question comes down to what diane just said. were there other ways for him to protect himself from presumably getting beaten up by trayvon mart p? >> yeah, absolutely and i'd like to address that. if you're going to use deadly force, which is what he used because we know trayvon martin is dead, you, yourself, have to be in fear of great body harm or in imminent danger of death. that is what the prosecution is going into these injuries. are they life threatening? of course not. he doesn't have a deviated septum. he has perhaps a broken nose
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that he didn't get treated. he didn't go to see an ent and he's got two one-inch lacerations on his head and a couple of bumps. he said afterward, he said he felt a little dizzy, i'm sorry, he didn't feel dizzy, nauseous. i think john goode was a consistent witness. this week was not a great week for the defense and the ultimate issue is was he justified in using deadly force? i don't know that any witness that has testified has given him that. >> the pictures are pretty dramatic. you see all the blood, the bruises. i guess a picture sometimes speaks a thousand words, right? >> you know, i guess because i was a prosecutor and i've seen a lot of dead bodies and a lot of really significant injuries, they don't look that significant
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to me. ultimately, it's up to the jury to determine what is significant. what means that he was in grave body, in danger of grave body harm or imminent danger of death. i just don't think those injuries get him there and that's what the prosecution is trying to hone in on. >> because that frontal picture when we see all the blood on his face and it looks like his nose is broken, to six members of the jury, all women, that could look pretty serious. >> it can and remember the florida law. the jury instruction is going to be hold to those jurors is did he have a reasonable belief that he was facing death or body harm, serious bodily injury, so that's a subjective determination. not an objective one. so what happened the day after considering a medical examination, although important, is not the critical consideration. it's when in fact he maintains
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>> i never said that. i was not 100% sure. >> i'm not asking for 100% certainty. i'm asking you to use common sense and to tell us if you think that was george zimmerman's voice. >> that's just my opinion. >> nothing further, your honor. >> a neighbor who says he believes he saw george zimmerman on the bottom of that fight. potentially very significant testimony, diane. >> i think probably the most significant from the defense's point of view to date. he was such a good witness in my estimation because he wasn't for either side. he made some points for trayvon martin's side. he made some points for the defense side and he was very matter of fact about it. he wasn't emotional and he's kind of really the closest thing we have to an eyewitness to the events. now, he said he didn't see the head being struck upon the sidewalk, but we have proof that something happened because we have those photographs.
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so, what he has to say, trayvon martin on the top, the lighter skinned person on the bottom, pinned down, is really significant. >> stand by, diane. we're going to continue our special coverage. happening now, new witness accounts of the night trayvon martin was shot dead. did they help george zimmerman make the case that he acted in self-defen self-defense? also, i'll talk live this hour to the texas state senator who's become a hero for liberals after she filibustered for borgs rights. and a shocking new report, the police who protect millions of visitors to america's monuments, they have lost track of thousands, thousands of weapons. i'm wolf blitzer. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the word. the word. you're in "the situation room." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com
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two of george zimmerman's former neighbors gave some dramatic testimony today. they told jurors what they saw and heard on that dark and rainy night in florida when trayvon martin was shot and killed. one of them even took photos of zimmerman's bloodied head and nose when he encountered him right after the shooting. both spoke to the key question of whether zimmerman acted in self-defense, but not necessarily in the way we might have expected from prosecution witnesses. martin savidge has been covering the trial for us in sanford, florida. martin, a very dramatic day today. >> it was, wolf. i mean, the past two days have been focused on what's called the prosecution's star witnesses. today, these were key witnesses crucial to the case. especially for the defense because it seems that at least in two accounts, the stories they tell bolster what george zimmerman has maintained, that it was trayvon martin that was on top of him beating him, there
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by he had to shoot in self-defense to help save his own life. jonathan goode was one of the first to testify. what was interesting is that he really is i guess you could say an eyewitness, he claims. that he was on his patio 10 to 15 feet away. saw the two struggling and could have identify them from the color of the clothinging, then later by name. he described exactly what he saw and listen. >> what you saw was the person on top in mma style straddle position. further described as ground and pound. what is ground and pound? >> that's usually what takes place in that type of position. >> sure, so mma, mixed martial arts. >> correct. >> you knew it enough to start giving technology like ground and pound to what you saw. >> it was the first thing that
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came to my mind, yes. >> that the person on top was ground and pounding the person on the bottom. >> that's what it looked like, yes. >> so, explain what ground and pound is in your mind. >> the person on top being able to punch the person on the bottom. but the person on the bottom also has a chance to get out or punch the person on top. it's back and forth. >> sure. and which is the dominant position? >> it would be the top position. >> pretty dramatic stuff, martin. when we hear about that, the state also trieded to get at zimmerm zimmerman's state of mind with a different witness. tell us about that. >> now, this jonathan manilo, he was the next to take the weekend witness stand. he is the very first person george zimmerman interacts with in the seconds immediately after he has shot trayvon martin and what this state was trying to get to in their testimony with him was what was zimmerman's
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state of mind and that is crucial for second degree murder because it plays into that, so they really wanted to get a sense of what was george saying, thinking. here's what the witness said. >> okay. i had a connection with her right away and i said, your husband is involved in a shooting. he's been handcuffed and going to be held for questioning at the sanford police department and around that time, kind of cut me off, just tell her i shot someone. >> when you say he cut you off, the defendant cut you off? >> yes. >> and said what, now? >> just tell her i shot someone. >> did you respond? >> yes. >> what did you say? >> okay, well, he just shot someone. >> saying to his wife? >> yes, saying it to his wife. >> in terms of what he said
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then, how would you describe the defendant's demeanor? >> like i was talking too long to say what i had to say. >> wolf, what was going on there was that the witness, george zimmerman, was handcuffed at that point and he asked could the witness, the man that night, call zimmerman's wife, which he did for him. what the state i think is trying to point out, kind of an odd thing where he just blurts out, tell her i shot someone, wu the but the defense came back and said he said a number of other things besides just that. it was at least an attempt to point out state of mind. >> what an attempt to wind down week one. martin, don't go too far. i want to dig deeper with our cnn legal analyst. sunny hostin is a federal former prosecutor. joey jackson is a criminal defense attorney. i'm going to play joey, another little clip. this is the neighbor.
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who says he was an eyewitness to what was going on. listen to this. >> injury right around here. >> i can see that. >> as far as up as here. as down low as here. >> correct. >> as what you testified before. some of the same. >> appears to be, yes. >> and i'm sorry, your honor, i'm not identifying the exhibits. that's number 66 that the witness is testifying concerning. and do you see this area right there of swelling? this bridge here down to this ridge. do you see that? >> it's hard to tell in this picture from a side view. >> okay. can you see this injury here? and can you identify what that is? >> objection. from this aspect in terms of the matter of testifying his injuries here without this
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witness saying theres. >> sustain to the word injury. >> that clearly wasn't the neighbor who was watching, says he was watching what was going on. testimony from the physician assistant who treated george zimmerman a day after the shooting. if john goode said he was there, only a few feet away and believes he saw zimmerman on the bottom, martin on the top, what does that say to you? >> it's huge and let me just go into this. this was the physician's assistant. the defense was cross examining her on the issue of injury and talking about the issue of injury, what they are doing, the defense said was highlighting the injury, but more importantly, corroborating what george zimmerman said happen that night in the actual medical report f. you look at that and juxtapose that next to john goode's testimony and he's talking about mma style and the person's on the bottom and you
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also look at the screen, someone was yelling help, help, help. the jury won't infer that the person yelling help was the person in the bottom and that corroborates the defense of self-defense. >> it sounds like that was pretty important testimony that helps george zimmerman. >> well, there's no question that it was important testimony. it was the most important testimony for the defense and many are saying why would he p put on the case. the prosecution doesn't want to be seen by this jury as trying to hide evidence. you can't run away from the facts when you're a prosecutor. you try to shape the narrative so that it fits your theory of the case, but this was a good witness for the defense, but let me point out that this witness did say that while he saw trayvon martin on top of who he believed was trayvon martin on top of george zimmerman near the concrete, he then left and went
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inside and seconds past. between them. between the time that he saw that and then called 911 and then when trayvon martin is shot, he's shot and lands in the grass. far away from the concrete, so we don't know what happened between when this witness left and when trayvon martin was shot. that's one point. the other point i think is really important is what were the extent of his injuries and that's where you're hearing all of this. you're hearing about the extent of the injuries and the prosecution's going to say they're not really that serious and the last thing that i think is really important to mention also is that this john goode is the only witness out of all the neighbors that we saw on the witness stand that says it was george zimmerman on the bottom. every other witness says no. it was trayvon martin on the bottom and so i think when you look at this case, this is a complicated case. like putting together little pieces of a puzzle. ultimately, the jury may still
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find when -- find his version of events credible, but still a very good day for the defense. >> guys, hold on for a moment. i want both of you sto stand by. there's a lot more to discuss. other elements that came out at the end of week one, we're going to continue our special coverage of the george zimmerman second degree murder trial ongoing in sanford, florida. we're also following other important news this hour, including some record breaking temperatures out west. could be a very dangerous situation all weekend. also this hour, i'll speak live with a state senator in a texas brawl with rick perry over abortion rights and his personal attacks on her. stand by. "i'm part of an american success story,"
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abortions. it attracted a huge crowd at the texas state capital tuesday night and went viral on the internet. she became a hero to some and target for others, including rick perry. here's what the governor said about her yesterday while speaking to a group of antiabortion activists. >> who are we to say that children born in the worst of circumstances can't grow to live successful lives? in fact, even the woman who filibustereded the senate the other day was born into difficult circumstances. she was the daughter of a single woman. she was a teenage mother herself. she managed to eventually graduate from harvard law school. and serve in the texas senate. it's just unfortunate that she hasn't learned from her own example that every life must be given a chance to realize its full potential and that every
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life matters. >> wendy davis is joining us now from ft. worth, texas. senator, the governor's office issued another statement today because i know you were angry at him for making those personal comments about you. the statement says was praising senator davis for her success despite coming from difficult circumstances and that should be an inspiration to others. what's your response to this? >> well, as i said yesterday, and really, wolf, i didn't have an angry response to it on behalf of myself. i think it just demonstrated the typical attitude that governor perry has expressed toward this issue. he's demeaned the high office that he holds by saying things like that. but the larger picture is that it's symptommatic. what really is his perspective on women and the very personal
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liberties that are guaranteed to us by the constitution and his desire to see big government intrude upon those very private matters. >> we invited him to join us and hopefully, he'll come in next week to join us, but if he's watching now, what would you say directly to governor perry? >> governor perry, if you try truly care about women's health, let's do something to make sure we are protecting them. let's make sure that we are preventing unplanned pregnancies and committing resources to make that happen. let's make sure that we are working for age appropriate sex education in our school system and let's stop demonizing women who face very difficult choices in their life. let's make sure that we don't close down 37 of the 42 clinics in texas and leave women with
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nowhere to go and put them in a situation where their health will be at risk because what we do know is that closing down the able ability to access that service unfortunately is not a way or women's confronting that issue away. i agree with what the american college of american gynecology and obstetrics has said on this particular bill. they believe it endangers women's health because it's putting us back in an era we've been in before. we know what happens to women in impoverishes settings turn to. >> there's a huge debate in the country over abortion rights for women. that debate is obviously continuing. legislation that you filibustered would have panned nearly all abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy. a poll asked whether or not people support this.
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48% said they would support banning nearly all abortions off 20 weeks. 44 opposed. 8% unsure. so this is a fiercely, fiercely debated issue right now. there's two sides to this story. >> oh, there certainly is and let's face it. no one likes the idea of an abortion that's that late. but sometimes, women find out unfortunately later in their pregnancies that they're facing some very serious issues. either for their own health or because there are health issues for her pregnancy. and women confront those very difficult personal choices, personal challenges. i think the larger issue really is about the sanctity of personal decision making privacy and liberties that are assured
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to women by the constitution and respecting and keeping big government out of the decision making. >> sorry for interrupting, governor says he's going to call another special session that starts july 1st. are you going to filibuster again? >> it starts on monday. the opportunity i had to filibuster this bill was really from some mismanagement of the calendar by republican leaders that gave us the opportunity to do that. i think this time, unfortunately, the consequence of that will be that they are going to work to cram this bill through as fast as they possibly can with as little public discourse as possible. what we saw in terms of the outcry as the capital this week was that women want their voices to be heard. and they were demanding that they be heard. in the filibuster, i had the opportunity to read some very personal stories from women who were willing to share those so
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they could be a part of that conversation. >> we're out of time, but a quick yes or no. are you going to run against him for governor? >> i don't know. i got to go to work on this bill for a little while. >> sounds like a maybe to me. we'll see. senator, thanks very much for coming in. >> thank you, wolf. >> coming up, the father of edward snowden officers the government a deal to get his son home. stand by. ♪ hooking up tr helping bus t♪ they haul everything, safely and on time. ♪ tracks! they connect the factories built along the lines. and that means jobs, lots of people, making lots and lots of things. let's get your business rolling now, everybody sing. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪ ♪ helping this big country move ahead as one ♪ ♪ norfolk southern how's that function? ♪ i'll just press this, and you'll save on both. ding! ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, llllet's get ready
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i don't believe he'd betray the people of the united states. >> and suggesting he might voluntarily give himself up and return to the united states, but any return would have conditions attached. a letter from lonnie's snowden's attorney said he might return if he's not detained before trial, not subject to a gag order and gets to pick the court. a former federal prosecutor says at the justice department, these conditions are likely dead on arrival. >> it's interesting letter to read. i dare say my former colleagues at the department of justice probably got a chuckle when they saw it. i think this letter is a dead letter when it gets to the department. >> asking for what you want is part of the game, but david luften says the government isn't only looking to prosecute! one of the challenges is the risk going forward in the prosecution itself will further compromise the disclosure of
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intelligence information. that's always the challenge in these cases and in this case, it will be a big challenge, too, if he is returned to the united states. >> which is a big if. lonnie snowden says he has not spoken to his son since april. >> i love him. i would like to have the opportunity to communicate with him. i don't want to put him in peril. >> it's an unusual letter, but a source close to the case tells cnn it was a message intended to reach edward snowden himself as well as justice department officials to try to put options on the table including snowden's possible return to the united states that may not have been considered seriously. he's also said he's concerned whether his son may have been manipulated by the wikileaks organization. >> all this going on in this case, we'll continue to follow it. thanks very much. still ahead, we're going to try to read between the lines of that blockbuster testimony today in the george zimmerman trial. which side made a stronger case? and a dangerous situation unfolding out west as
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happening now, five days of powerful testimony. we're going to tell you what george zimmerman, the murder trial, stands at the moment, what lies ahead. also, historic heat wave out west. temperatures soaring to 115 degrees and higher. and the iconic muppets, bert and ernie, they become poster boys for same-sex marriage on a magazine cover after the supreme court's landmark rulings. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." over a year after george zimmerman shot and killed trayvon martin, we got some really detailed accounts of what happened in florida. two of zimmerman's former neighbors were among the witnesses. john goode told jurors he saw some of the tussle and that it appeared that martin was on top of zimmerman and that he was punching him. >> in terms of describing the
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individuals, are you able to describe the faces or anything but the descriptions? >> going back to when they were vertical, i could tell that person on the bottom had a lighter skinned color. >> what you saw was the person on top in mma straddle position, correct? explain what ground and pound is in your mind. >> the person on top being able to punch the person on the bottom. but the person on the bottom also has a chance to get out or punch the person on top. it's back and forth. >> mma, mixed martial arts. also testifying today, a neighbor who took photos of a bloodied zimmerman shortly after martin was shot. >> you also asked him what happened. >> yes. >> and he said this guy was beating me up and i shot him. >> i had to defend myself and i shot him.
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>> i'm sorry. >> i was defending myself and i shot him. >> so, this guy was beating me up. i was defending myself and i shot him is what he told you. >> yes. >> without hesitatio no. >> and fra what you could tell at the moment, it seemed completely true. >> yes. >> let's bring in our cnn legal correspondent, jean casarez and mark nejame. who got the better deal as far as your concerned? >> this was a very, very strong day for the defense. let's start with jonathan, who you just heard from. he was the first person to get outside right after the shooting, it was really not even a minute later. and excited stams to come before the jury and this neighbor said what happened and george zimmerman said this guy was beating me up and so, i had to shoot him.
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that is allowed because of the trustworthy nature of it. another neighbor, eyewitness. he was the one out there right at the pinnacle point of time before the shot. and why is this important? because the defense has to show that george zimmerman believed reasonably he was going to die by serious bodily injury. he saw in three stage, w horizontal on the grass, over to the cement and then george zimmerman was yelling for him. then officer tim smith took the stand and said when he arrived just a minute after it happened that george zimmerman said i was yelling for help and no one came to help me. >> mark, let me play that clip, that little change that the prosecutor had with the neighbor, who said he watched what was going on. >> my question is, did you ever
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see the person on top kick the person on the bottom and actually slam them into the concrete. >> no. >> did you see the person on top slamming the person's head over and over? >> no. >> did you see at any time, the person on top grab the person on the bottom's head and slam it into the concrete? >> no. >> all right, so as much he presumably helped the defense, you saw the prosecutor trying to trip ray away. >> yeah, the prosecutor did the best job he could with the cards dealt to him. he played it as well as he could. the fact is, as a lot of people are asking him, why would the prosecution put on this witness who was more of a defense witness and the answer is s simple. because the this is the best way for the state to diffuse it as best they could, to put their best spin on this and that's what they did. they wanted to put some blocks
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there so that maybe there were some questions and maybe mr. goode was not quite as reliable as he was otherwise appearing, but the fact is, this is the state's case. they needed to put him on because if they didn't, the jury would be suspicious. i think it was a good move by the state, but i don't think they could stop the credibility that mr. goode seemed to present to everybody listening. >> jean, the picture, showing the blood, the damage to his head, that were brought in, this evidence today, especially when those six women who were members of the jury when they had to assess whether or not he acted in legitimate self-defense, those could be pretty powerful, don't you think? >> and they were so focused on them. they were on the big multimedia screen, but the neighbor, jonathan manillo took two pictures showing the most significant blood right after it happened and you know why? because law enforcement was asking another neighbor, can you i.d. the two people, she says i don't want to go over there, can
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somebody take a picture. that is why those pictures were taken. when the emt arrived, they cleaned up george zimmerman's injuries. >> the trial resumes on monday. we'll have extensive coverage. guy, thanks very much. we'll have you back next week. just ahead, the murder case involving the former nfl player, aaron hernandez. two of his friend rs now in police custody as well. and a four-star u.s. general under investigation for allegedly giving away classified information. and the historic melting. the heat wave out west. but first, daytime television star kelly ripa shows a way to impact your work. >> hi, i'm kelly ripa.
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major news in california. breaking news. a federal appeals court has just now lifted its order blocking same-sex marriage in california. it's a direct result of the historic decision by the united states supreme court earlier this week on proposition-8. that banned same-sex marriage in california. today's order just released by the ninth circuit court of appeals simply says this. the stay in the above matter is dissolved effective immediately. effective immediately. earlier in the week, after the supreme court decision, i interviewed the attorney general of california and she said the she wants same h sex couples to be allowed to get married in california very, very quickly. she didn't know how long it would take the 9th circuit court of appeals to lift on those
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kinds of marriages as a result of the decision, but now, the 9th has moved very, very quickly. the stay is lifted and that sets the stage for same-sex marriage to resume in california. a retired high ranking u.s. marine general now at the center of a huge controversy involving leaks of u.s. secrets. james cartwright used to be the vice chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. now, he's being investigated by the justice department. here's barbara starr. >> retired marine corps general, once one of president obama's closest advisers, now under justice department investigation for supplying classified material to a "new york times" journalist. according to a source familiar with the matter, he is being scrutinized for divulges details to david sanger, confront and
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conceal. the book details the obama administration's efforts to confront national security challenges including iran's nuclear program. nbc news reports cartwright is being investigated for allegedly providing secret details about a u.s. program he helped run to infect an iranian nuclear facility with the stucks net computer virus, an operation so sensitive, he once described it as an act of war if used against the u.s. >> so the question then becomes are those critical to our -- the national leadership, that's true, then it becomes an act. >> cmm has not confirmed he is specifically being investigated over stucks net and he has not yet been charged. his attorney sukts any suggestion he could betray this country he loves the
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propostrouse. fran townsend thinks it's inconceivable the general would leak such vital secrets. >> it's really shocking to me because this is not the sort of thing, not a shoot from the hip guy, a grandizing soldier. he's a real patriot. >> an advocate for reducing government secrecy says reforms are needed to deal with disclosures of classified information short of criminal prosecution. >> the vice chairman of the joint chiefs of staff is not a disgruntled bureaucrat. he's just at the top of the pyramid and is accused of leaking classified information, anybody could be. >> in these cases, the question always comes up here in washington, could there have been political motivation? did somebody in the white house encourage cartwright to leak this information? we don't know the answer to that, but what we do know is
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david sanger had multiple source for his work. >> thanks very much. meanwhile, a new arrest, new details of the evidence of the murder case against the former nfl player, aaron hernandez. susan candiotti is in attleborough, massachusetts. what are you hearing, susan? >> major developments tonight coming from the district attorney here, announcing that two people who he allegations were with aaron hernandez the night odin lloyd was murdered are now behind bars, but those two men are not yet charged with murder. >> we have those three individuals that were in the car at that time, oudin loud got into the car that we now have in custody. >> earnest wallace was last seen driving a car was rented by hearn does hours after lloyd's murder. a car allegedly swapped out for
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one who have been used the night of the murder. police say hernandez drove the new rental back to his house with two so-called confederates. >> after arriving back, the two confederates get back into the car and then leave. >> after seeing this wanted poster, wallace told police he wanted to surrender where he lives, in miramar, florida. he walked into a police station, but refused to say anything else. another man, carlos ortiz, charged as a fugitive in connection with the murder investigation, was sent back to massachusetts from connecticut. investigators say there's surveillance video showing hernandez, ortiz and wallace, picking up odin lloyd at his house and getting into a sillerer nissan altima at the house at 232 a.m. the photos that are extremely grainy, show a light colored car
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driving down the victim's street. it's unclear whether this is the silver altima and investigators won't discuss it. the people who own the cameras tell cnn police spent hours looking at this and other videos taken that night. now, the man who turned himself in in florida is expected to be extradited back here to massachusetts sometime soon. the other man who is already in custody here in connecticut and had a brief hearing today, a lawyer representing him said that he had no comment as to whether mr. ortiz may be involved in lloyd's murder and at this time, the man is only charged on a firearms account. wolf? >> susan candiotti reporting the very latest. thanks very much. up next, the very dangerous situation out west as planes are at risk right now at the temperatures soar into triple digits. dad. how did you get here?
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california proposition 8. so the attorney general of california getting, is in city hall right now. and she's ofish greficiatinoffi she's ofish greating. but she is involved in the marriage. other news we're following. let's stay out west where a dangerous heat wave is blistering today. pretty hot out there, right? >>. >> reporter: yeah. planes are grounded at bermuda dunes airport. record high temperatures make flying these small aircraft too dangerous on a relatively short runway. >> what that means is that we'll be out of business this afternoon.
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it's going to be too hot to fly. when it's 110, 115 degrees, the air is thinner. the runway's about a mile long. we could get it off the ground. it's not that we can't. you just shouldn't. >> reporter: at palm springs airport, the runway is twice as long and it's designed for hot temperatures. >> when it does, we're well prepared. we lien then runways. we strengthen the pavement. >> reporter: in fact, he says it's an attraction for tourist. >> we have people from germany, chicago, new york, seattle,
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toronto o toronto. no matter how hot it gets, no flights will be canceled. we're ready for it. >> reporter: with blazing temperatures throughout the west, air conditioners are humming. frozen treats are being scooped and construction workers are adjusting shifts. >> sometimes we change our shifts and tart getting off before noontime before the real heat of the day hits. >> reporter: it's expected to hit 115, phoenix, 117 saturday. >> i'm going to san francisco to visit family. >> reporter: my car thermometer read 118 degrees at 11:00 this morning. now the temperature currently, 117 degrees. it's expected to be 120 tomorrow. if you look at this tarmac, 140
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right we've just got the confirmation, official statement
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from the attorney general of california. she is now participating in some gay, same-sex marriages out in california. let me read the statement that she just released following the 9th circuit court of appeals lifting its stay on proposition 8, which barred same-sex marriage in california. there you saw the supreme court set the scene for this earlier in the week. there's david boyce and some of the other plaintiffs in the case. they won the case. the case now going forward in california. here's the statement from the attorney general. i am thrilled that the state lifted its ban. gay and lesbian couples have waited so long for this day and for their fundamental right to marry. finally there loving relationships are as legitimate and legal as any other. as i said, she's now at the san
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francisco city hall. and she's participating in two marriages, two of those couples. the same sex couples that were involved in the case. let me just point out that this is a historic moment in california, indeed around the country as this 9th court of apea the decision has gone forward. very traumatic moment indeed. and it was all put in motion by the united states supreme court decisions ending defense of marriage act. but also allowing same sex marriage effectively to go forward. comela harris was with me in the situation room. she said it would happen quickly. indeed it has happened very, very happy. it's also having another impact on sesame street. bert and ernie are seen
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celebrating. it's reigniting speculation that the two iconic characters are gay. pbs still insists that it isn't so. that they are puppets, they don't have sexual orientations. that's it for me. erin burnett starts. a dramatic day in the george zimmerman trial. what witnesses say it they saw the night that trayvon martin died. and then private jets and large salaries and staffs. we're talking about top generals in the united states military. plus alec baldwin loses his cool again. why did he rant against a reporter? let's go out front.